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		<title>By: milena blanton</title>
		<link>http://www.ThomasUmstattd.com/2008/06/the-sin-of-sarcasm/comment-page-1/#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>milena blanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't mind sarcasm, when it isn't biting sarcasm. That's the stuff that purposely gets down to the nitty gritty ugly stuff that you don't want anyone talking about and makes a joke out of it simply to cause you pain. I think that's terrible. 

Also, I am learning a boat-load about this blogging and RSS stuff! Thanks Thomas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind sarcasm, when it isn&#8217;t biting sarcasm. That&#8217;s the stuff that purposely gets down to the nitty gritty ugly stuff that you don&#8217;t want anyone talking about and makes a joke out of it simply to cause you pain. I think that&#8217;s terrible. </p>
<p>Also, I am learning a boat-load about this blogging and RSS stuff! Thanks Thomas!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, lots of responses to this one.  In the interest of interestingness, Ill compose a comment.

First, some of my personal observations on sarcasm: I've noticed sarcasm doesnt translate well in writing.  Its pretty much restricted to the spoken word.  It is often a disingenuous way to illustrate a point. A tactic that allows the speaker to make a statement that he is unwilling to take responsibility for. It can hinder relationships and true fellowship.

I agree with most of what you wrote, however, I don't agree with your premise that it is the language of bullies.  When was the last time you heard a bully make a sarcastic comment?  Usually, a bully is in control of the situation and can express his whole mind without any thought of hiding his harsh comments in a veil of innocence.  In your example of sarcasm, you said that the bully told the teacher that he was "only joking".  But I'll bet when the boy got back to school, the bully probably assured him that he was not joking at all.  He said that to get out of trouble with others more powerful than himself - bullies are truly cowards after all.

I submit that sarcasm is actually the weapon of the weak. At least in my experience, I have seen sarcasm used as an outlet for those who felt unable to express their true feelings.  They are able to make a harsh or foolish statement and hide from retribution behind their sarcasm.  The reasons for them feeling the way they do vary.  You touched on several of them in your article. Some are insecure, some don't want others to ask questions, some are uncomfortable with their surroundings, others simply lack the ability to be genuinely funny.  I try not to be overbearing towards those I sense are being excessively sarcastic.  They may not feel free to be honest.

Not that those who are sarcastic are free from blame.  Sarcasm is foolishness.  Those who practice foolishness are fools. I admit that I have succumbed to the temptation to be foolish.  I see the dangers it poses to effective communication and have purposed to focus on saying what I mean in an up-front manner - even if it is more boring.  We should all focus on becoming more effective with the words of our mouth and be understanding towards those who are not as wise as we are.  Good article, Thomas.

Proverbs 15:2 The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, lots of responses to this one.  In the interest of interestingness, Ill compose a comment.</p>
<p>First, some of my personal observations on sarcasm: I&#8217;ve noticed sarcasm doesnt translate well in writing.  Its pretty much restricted to the spoken word.  It is often a disingenuous way to illustrate a point. A tactic that allows the speaker to make a statement that he is unwilling to take responsibility for. It can hinder relationships and true fellowship.</p>
<p>I agree with most of what you wrote, however, I don&#8217;t agree with your premise that it is the language of bullies.  When was the last time you heard a bully make a sarcastic comment?  Usually, a bully is in control of the situation and can express his whole mind without any thought of hiding his harsh comments in a veil of innocence.  In your example of sarcasm, you said that the bully told the teacher that he was &#8220;only joking&#8221;.  But I&#8217;ll bet when the boy got back to school, the bully probably assured him that he was not joking at all.  He said that to get out of trouble with others more powerful than himself - bullies are truly cowards after all.</p>
<p>I submit that sarcasm is actually the weapon of the weak. At least in my experience, I have seen sarcasm used as an outlet for those who felt unable to express their true feelings.  They are able to make a harsh or foolish statement and hide from retribution behind their sarcasm.  The reasons for them feeling the way they do vary.  You touched on several of them in your article. Some are insecure, some don&#8217;t want others to ask questions, some are uncomfortable with their surroundings, others simply lack the ability to be genuinely funny.  I try not to be overbearing towards those I sense are being excessively sarcastic.  They may not feel free to be honest.</p>
<p>Not that those who are sarcastic are free from blame.  Sarcasm is foolishness.  Those who practice foolishness are fools. I admit that I have succumbed to the temptation to be foolish.  I see the dangers it poses to effective communication and have purposed to focus on saying what I mean in an up-front manner - even if it is more boring.  We should all focus on becoming more effective with the words of our mouth and be understanding towards those who are not as wise as we are.  Good article, Thomas.</p>
<p><a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=51&amp;passage=Proverbs+15%3A2" class="bibleref" title="NLT Proverbs 15:2">Proverbs 15:2</a> The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.ThomasUmstattd.com/2008/06/the-sin-of-sarcasm/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Sarcasm is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing." -&lt;a&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;

By Wikipedia's definition, sarcasm isn't always a bad thing, and my Dad's comment does fall under sarcasm. Sarcasm can be a bad thing, but maybe not all the time.

&#62;  Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sarcasm is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing.&#8221; -<a>Wikipedia</a></p>
<p>By Wikipedia&#8217;s definition, sarcasm isn&#8217;t always a bad thing, and my Dad&#8217;s comment does fall under sarcasm. Sarcasm can be a bad thing, but maybe not all the time.</p>
<p>&gt;  Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Ingram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S'ARCASM, n. [l. sarcasmus; Gr. from to deride or sneer at, primarily to fly or pluck off the skin.]


A keen reproachful expression; a satirical remark or expression, uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe. Of this we have an example in the remark of the Jews respecting Christ, on the cross, "He saved others, himself he cannot save."

... so yes, it's a sin... "let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word that is good for edification" Eph 4 - somewhere about verse 32...

and really i don't think your dad's comment was sarcasm... more like playing with you :)

I have been quite sarcastic in my time... and it usually is a cutting comment &#38; not helpful... everyone laughs, sometimes even the one the comment is directed at... but some people, it really hurts... since we never know which way they will react... better to just not :) 

and i really like the verse used Eph 5:4... 

just my 2cents... and i am not even a debater :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S&#8217;ARCASM, n. [l. sarcasmus; Gr. from to deride or sneer at, primarily to fly or pluck off the skin.]</p>
<p>A keen reproachful expression; a satirical remark or expression, uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe. Of this we have an example in the remark of the Jews respecting Christ, on the cross, &#8220;He saved others, himself he cannot save.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; so yes, it&#8217;s a sin&#8230; &#8220;let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word that is good for edification&#8221; <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=51&amp;passage=Eph+4" class="bibleref" title="NLT Eph 4">Eph 4</a> - somewhere about verse 32&#8230;</p>
<p>and really i don&#8217;t think your dad&#8217;s comment was sarcasm&#8230; more like playing with you <img src='http://www.ThomasUmstattd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have been quite sarcastic in my time&#8230; and it usually is a cutting comment &amp; not helpful&#8230; everyone laughs, sometimes even the one the comment is directed at&#8230; but some people, it really hurts&#8230; since we never know which way they will react&#8230; better to just not <img src='http://www.ThomasUmstattd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>and i really like the verse used <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=51&amp;passage=Eph+5%3A4" class="bibleref" title="NLT Eph 5:4">Eph 5:4</a>&#8230; </p>
<p>just my 2cents&#8230; and i am not even a debater <img src='http://www.ThomasUmstattd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a debater, two objections jump to my mind;

1) Definition

Yep, as a debater, I want a definition of sarcasm. Let me provide an example. At the book fair, my parents and I discussing my curriculum and all the things I'm going to take and what I'm not going to take because I just don't have time. Then my Dad says, "maybe if we just game him two vitamins..." Both my Mom couldn't help but laugh. Is this sarcasm? Because it certainly wasn't unwholesome.

2) The "tag line"

Have you been power-tagging Thomas? :-) Sure; the alliteration is cool, but I don't see you discuss whether sarcasm is a sin. Just whether it is healthy or not.

Seems to me like sarcasm is a lot like civil disobedience. It's not necessarily a sin, but it isn't the best.

&#62;  Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a debater, two objections jump to my mind;</p>
<p>1) Definition</p>
<p>Yep, as a debater, I want a definition of sarcasm. Let me provide an example. At the book fair, my parents and I discussing my curriculum and all the things I&#8217;m going to take and what I&#8217;m not going to take because I just don&#8217;t have time. Then my Dad says, &#8220;maybe if we just game him two vitamins&#8230;&#8221; Both my Mom couldn&#8217;t help but laugh. Is this sarcasm? Because it certainly wasn&#8217;t unwholesome.</p>
<p>2) The &#8220;tag line&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you been power-tagging Thomas? <img src='http://www.ThomasUmstattd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Sure; the alliteration is cool, but I don&#8217;t see you discuss whether sarcasm is a sin. Just whether it is healthy or not.</p>
<p>Seems to me like sarcasm is a lot like civil disobedience. It&#8217;s not necessarily a sin, but it isn&#8217;t the best.</p>
<p>&gt;  Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Renae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, you left out Ephesians 4:29 - "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up."

When does sarcasm build anybody up? Never.

Sarcasm is meanness masked as humor, in my opinion. Great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, you left out <a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=51&amp;passage=Ephesians+4%3A29" class="bibleref" title="NLT Ephesians 4:29">Ephesians 4:29</a> - &#8220;Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up.&#8221;</p>
<p>When does sarcasm build anybody up? Never.</p>
<p>Sarcasm is meanness masked as humor, in my opinion. Great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Ingram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a good word... thank you for posting... and making me think!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarcasm is very destructive in the church.</description>
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		<title>By: Josi</title>
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		<description>That first verse actually occured to me (in back-of-the-mind-paraphrase) late last night. :) I think those first two verses apply more specifcally to the subject at hand.

I found some more verses.

"O men, how long shall my honor be turned into shame? How long will you love vain words and seek after lies?" 
Psalm 4:2

After reading this verse I thought that a lot of sarcasm, especially the sarcasm Christians use, might not fall under "lying" so much as under "vain words". Of course, that ties right in with your theory about personal insecurity.

"When words are many, transgression is not lacking, but whoever restrains his lips is prudent."
Proverbs 10:19

I wonder, if we kept silent instead of raining sarcasm down on people, would we minimize our transgressions as well as our numerous words? Probably.

Thanks Thomas!! This was a very encouraging article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That first verse actually occured to me (in back-of-the-mind-paraphrase) late last night. <img src='http://www.ThomasUmstattd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I think those first two verses apply more specifcally to the subject at hand.</p>
<p>I found some more verses.</p>
<p>&#8220;O men, how long shall my honor be turned into shame? How long will you love vain words and seek after lies?&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=51&amp;passage=Psalm+4%3A2" class="bibleref" title="NLT Psalm 4:2">Psalm 4:2</a></p>
<p>After reading this verse I thought that a lot of sarcasm, especially the sarcasm Christians use, might not fall under &#8220;lying&#8221; so much as under &#8220;vain words&#8221;. Of course, that ties right in with your theory about personal insecurity.</p>
<p>&#8220;When words are many, transgression is not lacking, but whoever restrains his lips is prudent.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://biblegateway.com/bible?version=51&amp;passage=Proverbs+10%3A19" class="bibleref" title="NLT Proverbs 10:19">Proverbs 10:19</a></p>
<p>I wonder, if we kept silent instead of raining sarcasm down on people, would we minimize our transgressions as well as our numerous words? Probably.</p>
<p>Thanks Thomas!! This was a very encouraging article.</p>
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